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Food Wars vs Revenge Food
Okay, so here is the deal.
I am really tired of hearing people argue about food and fur.
Yes, we get it. Vegans don't like it when people hunt for food, trap for food/fur, or use leather/antlers or other animal byproducts.
I personally have no problem with people eating what they kill and using the fur, leather, antlers, bones, and anything else they can salvage. eg. Deer sinew is handy for bowmaking.
But I do have a problem with having to hear about it from nitwits who are trying to force their beliefs on to other people.
So the deal I have made with myself is that every time someone annoys me with their whole "fur is evil" or "hunting is evil" arguments, I go and eat a cute fuzzy animal. I call it The Revenge Food Principle. Every time someone annoys me, I go eat a cute animal as revenge.
The more annoyed they make me, the cuter the animal is.
Rabbits, lambs, deer... they are all on the menu.
I even found several lists of places where I can go eat locally here in Toronto:
* I decided to add duck to the list because I personally find them to be really cute. The meat is really greasy, but I will just have to deal with it however. I think on a cuteness scale however, a nice young lamb is still cuter however. Rabbits also very cute, so ducks will only be eaten if I am mildly annoyed.
So here is the plan.
Every time a vegan treehugger pisses me off I am going to eat one of the above mentioned food items. Or maybe I will finally get my hunting license and get into small game hunting. Either way, more food for my belly.
Also, every time they piss me off I am also going to add their names here. In the Hall of Cute but Tasty Food Shame. And to prove that these are real people I will be posting links to their Facebook profiles / etc.
I might even go a step further and post photos of any animals I kill with me holding up a sign that says "I killed this rabbit for you Jenny Patterson."
The Hall of Cute but Tasty Food Shame
Jenny Patterson so far has killed 2 cute widdle animals.
https://www.facebook.com/jenny.patterson.982
Andy Niko has killed 1 so far. I am thinking a rabbit. I have never had rabbit before.
https://www.facebook.com/andy.niko.31
Updates
December 27th 2017
Aleah Hall of Toronto has killed 1 duck and 1 lamb so far by annoying me. If she annoys me again I am thinking I will add pork to the menu.
https://www.facebook.com/aleah.hall
So yeah... go ahead. Annoy me. I have 34 bows, an untold number of arrows, and I keep telling myself I should get my hunting license. So if going out to restaurants to eat rabbit, lamb and duck gets too expensive I will just get my hunting license and add venison to the menu.
Tonight my wife and I are going out to dinner at a restaurant. Some place that serves lamb. I have a sudden hankering to eat lamb for some reason. You can thank Jenny Patterson for that.
Comments?
Absolutely, feel free to post annoying comments. I will respond by killing another cute widdle animal. Go ahead. Make my tasty food.
I am really tired of hearing people argue about food and fur.
Yes, we get it. Vegans don't like it when people hunt for food, trap for food/fur, or use leather/antlers or other animal byproducts.
I personally have no problem with people eating what they kill and using the fur, leather, antlers, bones, and anything else they can salvage. eg. Deer sinew is handy for bowmaking.
But I do have a problem with having to hear about it from nitwits who are trying to force their beliefs on to other people.
So the deal I have made with myself is that every time someone annoys me with their whole "fur is evil" or "hunting is evil" arguments, I go and eat a cute fuzzy animal. I call it The Revenge Food Principle. Every time someone annoys me, I go eat a cute animal as revenge.
The more annoyed they make me, the cuter the animal is.
Rabbits, lambs, deer... they are all on the menu.
I even found several lists of places where I can go eat locally here in Toronto:
Lamb
https://foursquare.com/top-places/toronto/best-places-lamb-shanks
Rabbit
https://foursquare.com/top-places/toronto/best-places-rabbit
Duck*
https://foursquare.com/top-places/toronto/best-places-roast-duck
* I decided to add duck to the list because I personally find them to be really cute. The meat is really greasy, but I will just have to deal with it however. I think on a cuteness scale however, a nice young lamb is still cuter however. Rabbits also very cute, so ducks will only be eaten if I am mildly annoyed.
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Look how cute this duck is? And tasty! I very much want to eat it. |
So here is the plan.
Every time a vegan treehugger pisses me off I am going to eat one of the above mentioned food items. Or maybe I will finally get my hunting license and get into small game hunting. Either way, more food for my belly.
Also, every time they piss me off I am also going to add their names here. In the Hall of Cute but Tasty Food Shame. And to prove that these are real people I will be posting links to their Facebook profiles / etc.
I might even go a step further and post photos of any animals I kill with me holding up a sign that says "I killed this rabbit for you Jenny Patterson."
The Hall of Cute but Tasty Food Shame
Jenny Patterson so far has killed 2 cute widdle animals.
https://www.facebook.com/jenny.patterson.982
Andy Niko has killed 1 so far. I am thinking a rabbit. I have never had rabbit before.
https://www.facebook.com/andy.niko.31
Updates
December 27th 2017
Aleah Hall of Toronto has killed 1 duck and 1 lamb so far by annoying me. If she annoys me again I am thinking I will add pork to the menu.
https://www.facebook.com/aleah.hall
So yeah... go ahead. Annoy me. I have 34 bows, an untold number of arrows, and I keep telling myself I should get my hunting license. So if going out to restaurants to eat rabbit, lamb and duck gets too expensive I will just get my hunting license and add venison to the menu.
Tonight my wife and I are going out to dinner at a restaurant. Some place that serves lamb. I have a sudden hankering to eat lamb for some reason. You can thank Jenny Patterson for that.
Comments?
Absolutely, feel free to post annoying comments. I will respond by killing another cute widdle animal. Go ahead. Make my tasty food.
Trapping in Ontario
If you are looking to get into trapping for the purposes of getting food you are going to be sorely disappointed.
Trapping in Ontario is really about FUR, not food.
To get a trapping license in Ontario you first need to complete the Fur Harvest, Fur Management and Conservation Course and then apply for their license.
The traps themselves are often designed with padded bits on a leg hold trap, so the animal itself is not injured, the fur is not damaged, and the fur can then be sold for extra $$$ after being sold. Below a trap designed for capturing badgers without hurting their fur is demonstrated.
Which makes it abundantly clear that trapping in Ontario equals the fur trapping business.
However there is one exception...
If you are a farmer trapping on your own land you don't need a license to trap "nuisance animals". eg. If you own chickens and have problems with foxes sneaking into your chicken coop and killing your chickens, then you can legally trap foxes on your own land in order to get rid of them - and eating the foxes you've trapped and killed is perfectly legal - but you have to have a Farm Business Registration and you still need to complete the Fur Harvest, Fur Management and Conservation Course if you want to be able to sell the fur from trapping varmints.
NOTES
You cannot legally own a trap unless you have completed the Fur Harvest, Fur Management and Conservation Course - unless it is for the express purpose of getting rid of nuisance animals, in which case you then need a Farm Business Registration.
It is apparently illegal to keep captive wildlife. So you cannot capture foxes for example, breed them, and then butcher them for meat.
As such it is pretty clear that unless you are trapping animals for fur or trapping animals that are nuisances on your farm, then you basically cannot trap (legally) for food.
ONTARIO'S FUR INDUSTRY
Commercial fur trapping in Ontario has existed since the 16th century and has gone through significant changes since then. Today trapping of animals for their fur is seen as a Renewable Resource and is highly regulated by the Ontario government.
As such the regulations include:
GOVERNMENT LAWS ON FUR TRAPPING AND CONSERVATION
Honestly, the bureaucrats working for the Ontario government just seems to roll its eyes in annoyance when animal rights activists like PETA come knocking.
eg. Recently Bob Barker failed to convince Ontario to ban the Spring bear hunt - which was part of a PETA campaign in an effort to try and get the Ministry of Natural Resources to not bring back the Spring bear hunt, which was deemed necessary in order to cull the number of black bears that were wandering into Ontario suburbs and forcing 911 calls to police, which ultimately end in the bears being shot and killed anyway.
By allowing a Spring bear hunt for male black bears it allows the government to answer the complaints of Ontario residents who are worried about their safety. And it allows the government to save money by not having to pay people to kill the nuisance bears for them. It shows a complete lack of knowledge of the part of animal rights activists about the nature of the situation.
And it is basically the same issue with trapping. Animal rights activists point to inhumane treatment and killing of animals, when in reality the whole purpose of training trappers and licensing them is to guarantee that animals are killed humanely.
The misconception being pushed by PETA is that trappers hate animals. This is wholly untrue. Trappers, hunters, people who love the great outdoors - they all love animals. The only difference is that they also like eating them, trapping them for fur, and wearing / making things out of the animals they kill.
Thus hunters and trappers are very often also conservationists - and should not be confused with say trophy hunters, who don't even eat the animals they kill.
My goal is researching and writing about trapping in Ontario was to see if people trap for food. What I have learned however is that people primarily trap animals for fur, and the food is sometimes consumed by humans, sometimes consumed as dog food (because as animal lovers trappers often have dogs as pets) and sometimes goes to waste.
Note - Quebec recently passed a new law allowing game meat in a select few restaurants. Ontario may also pass similar legislation in the future, allowing more game meats like venison, rabbit, fox and similar meats to be sold in restaurants - that way we can reduce the amount of meat that goes to waste.
Trapping in Ontario is really about FUR, not food.
To get a trapping license in Ontario you first need to complete the Fur Harvest, Fur Management and Conservation Course and then apply for their license.
The traps themselves are often designed with padded bits on a leg hold trap, so the animal itself is not injured, the fur is not damaged, and the fur can then be sold for extra $$$ after being sold. Below a trap designed for capturing badgers without hurting their fur is demonstrated.
Which makes it abundantly clear that trapping in Ontario equals the fur trapping business.
However there is one exception...
If you are a farmer trapping on your own land you don't need a license to trap "nuisance animals". eg. If you own chickens and have problems with foxes sneaking into your chicken coop and killing your chickens, then you can legally trap foxes on your own land in order to get rid of them - and eating the foxes you've trapped and killed is perfectly legal - but you have to have a Farm Business Registration and you still need to complete the Fur Harvest, Fur Management and Conservation Course if you want to be able to sell the fur from trapping varmints.
NOTES
You cannot legally own a trap unless you have completed the Fur Harvest, Fur Management and Conservation Course - unless it is for the express purpose of getting rid of nuisance animals, in which case you then need a Farm Business Registration.
It is apparently illegal to keep captive wildlife. So you cannot capture foxes for example, breed them, and then butcher them for meat.
As such it is pretty clear that unless you are trapping animals for fur or trapping animals that are nuisances on your farm, then you basically cannot trap (legally) for food.
ONTARIO'S FUR INDUSTRY
Commercial fur trapping in Ontario has existed since the 16th century and has gone through significant changes since then. Today trapping of animals for their fur is seen as a Renewable Resource and is highly regulated by the Ontario government.
As such the regulations include:
- Mandatory trapper education, which emphasizes safe and humane trapping, survival skills, good pelt preparation and sustainable management practices.
- Trapping licenses, which must be purchased and renewed every year.
- Open and closed trapping seasons, which were established in the early 1900s to prevent harvesting at times of the year when pelts are not "prime" and to avoid harvesting when young furbearers are dependent on their parents for survival.
- Harvest quotas, which define the maximum number of animals a trapper is allowed to harvest.
- Registered trapline areas, which is Crown land that is divided into more than 2,800 registered areas called traplines. Every trapper on Crown land is assigned a specific trapline and given the exclusive rights for that area.
- Research, which helps with fur management, gives a better knowledge of animal behaviour and improves wildlife management techniques.
- Mandatory Harvest Reporting, which allows the Ministry of Natural Resources to keep closer tabs on the habitat, population and distribution trends of animals.
GOVERNMENT LAWS ON FUR TRAPPING AND CONSERVATION
- ServiceOntario e-Laws - Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act
- ServiceOntario e-Laws - Crown Forest Sustainability Act
- ServiceOntario e-Laws - Planning Act
- Agreement on International Humane Trapping Standards (PDF, 100kb)
- ServiceOntario e-Laws - Open seasons for furbearers under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act
Honestly, the bureaucrats working for the Ontario government just seems to roll its eyes in annoyance when animal rights activists like PETA come knocking.
eg. Recently Bob Barker failed to convince Ontario to ban the Spring bear hunt - which was part of a PETA campaign in an effort to try and get the Ministry of Natural Resources to not bring back the Spring bear hunt, which was deemed necessary in order to cull the number of black bears that were wandering into Ontario suburbs and forcing 911 calls to police, which ultimately end in the bears being shot and killed anyway.
By allowing a Spring bear hunt for male black bears it allows the government to answer the complaints of Ontario residents who are worried about their safety. And it allows the government to save money by not having to pay people to kill the nuisance bears for them. It shows a complete lack of knowledge of the part of animal rights activists about the nature of the situation.
And it is basically the same issue with trapping. Animal rights activists point to inhumane treatment and killing of animals, when in reality the whole purpose of training trappers and licensing them is to guarantee that animals are killed humanely.
The misconception being pushed by PETA is that trappers hate animals. This is wholly untrue. Trappers, hunters, people who love the great outdoors - they all love animals. The only difference is that they also like eating them, trapping them for fur, and wearing / making things out of the animals they kill.
Thus hunters and trappers are very often also conservationists - and should not be confused with say trophy hunters, who don't even eat the animals they kill.
My goal is researching and writing about trapping in Ontario was to see if people trap for food. What I have learned however is that people primarily trap animals for fur, and the food is sometimes consumed by humans, sometimes consumed as dog food (because as animal lovers trappers often have dogs as pets) and sometimes goes to waste.
Note - Quebec recently passed a new law allowing game meat in a select few restaurants. Ontario may also pass similar legislation in the future, allowing more game meats like venison, rabbit, fox and similar meats to be sold in restaurants - that way we can reduce the amount of meat that goes to waste.
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